Only the Dark Side Works in Absolutes

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Recently I got into a discussion online and of course it dealt with politics. What did the article have to deal with? It had to deal with whether or not President Obama was born in this country. Even though I am against his policies, I am tired about hearing this issue discussed. I commented on the article basically saying no matter what happens, whatever the truth it will be found out eventually. I never said I believed in one side or the other.

There are bigger issues to focus on, like the economy and our national security.

Well I got some surprising reactions from people on facebook who never talk to me. I blocked out the individuals picture and name involved of course.

Absolutes 1

Absolutes 2

 

I can understand with my first comment they could believe I thought there was some whole conspiracy (which by the way I love conspiracy theories). I do agree also that the title is misleading (every news source no matter what side has done this at one point) However, I was disheartened as the discussion went on. Right away the term hardcore conservative propaganda is used which just made me think , ‘oh great it is going to be “are you with us or against us” kind of deal’. I ignored that in the beginning, but in the end I try to make a point by saying that people can go and respond to them right back at them that they are influenced by a media which has a heavy liberal slant. Propaganda exists on both sides, ignoring that is like ignoring the fact that there are corrupt politicians in both parties.

Instead of continuing the discussion, the individual says there is no point in having this discussion. While the other declines to respond.

What? Really? Come on now.

Granted my phrasing may be confusing, but it was also at 1 in the morning and I have been writing lots of papers within the past 2 weeks. So I am starting to burn out a little.

To sum up what I was trying to say:

  • History will prove who was right in the end.
  • It may take a long time for that to happen.
  • It may never happen.
  • There will be people who believe that Obama was US born.
  • There will be people who will change their minds on whether or not he was US born.
  • Others will never change their minds.
  • We will learn more about President Obama’s private life in at least 30-50 years.
  • It will probably take longer because we usually don’t learn a lot about our presidents full history until they are dead usually.
  • Even then we will never know their full history.
  • Every president has secrets (everyone has secrets so it should be no surprise if a president has one or two).
  • Both sides have an agenda, therefore both sides create propaganda to fulfill their agenda.
  • Politicians have an agenda.
  • Just because I am not condemning them (birthers in this case), doesn’t mean I condemn you( those that are against birthers).

Just because I am not condemning these people, doesn’t mean I am with/for them. I am just trying to think constructively about it. I prefer and want to hear both sides of any issue. Even conspiracy theories. I find them fascinating/ interesting regardless if they are true or not.

I question everything, I observe, and I listen; it was just how I was raised. I try not to take anything at face value.

In my opinion, rarely is anything black and white. With this whole conversation if felt very much as though I was being questioned as to whether or not I was with the birthers or if I was against them. I’m just here on the matter, I am more over this topic at this point.  For either way, whatever the case may be, we the human race will eventually learn whatever the truth is. Seemed very absolute to me how this conversation felt and than I remembered….

Only the dark side deals in absolutes (I know it is supposed to be siths, but my mind paraphrased it).

It is really sad how politics is very much, you are either with me or against me mentality. If you believe aspect “A” than you must believe in aspect “B” as well, therefore you are against me because I don’t agree with either aspects.  That is generally how you are portrayed online, on tv, movies, etc. so it must be true!

If you believe in abortion, you must hate Christians. If you don’t believe in abortion, you must hate women. If you are for a strict illegal immigration policy, you must hate immigrants. If you believe we should go to war, you must love war. If you don’t believe in this war, you hate our troops.  If you believe in business, you must hate people.  If you are republican you must believe in every single thing that the republican party believe. If you are democrat, you must believe every singe thing the democrat part believes.

On and on and on it goes. When will it end? Nobody knows.

Aren’t these absolutes kind of ridiculous. I am not saying there aren’t people who aren’t like this. Stereotypes exist because there are people out there that do fit the stereotype.  At the same time though, there are people out there who don’t fit the stereotype.

I know shocking right?

Below I have just wanted to continue to show stereotyping at its finest.

R=Republican /// D= Democrat

R- “You must be a liberal nutcase”

L-“Well you are an uncompassionate conservative”

 

R-“Man hater”

L- “Misogynist Pig.”

 

R- “You hate anyone that is Christian:

L- “You hate anyone that isn’t Christian.”

 

R- “I don’t agree with Obama on this issue.”

L- “You are just saying that because you are a republican and a racist!”

R- ” I am against his policies. Stop trying to make this about race. ”

L- “I’m just pointing out the truth, which the truth is you are a racist.

 

R- “We should be able to drill for oil.”

L- “No we should only use renewable resources. You will destroy the plant.”

R- “You want us to not be able to rely on ourselves. I want us to be independent”

L- “I want to save the planet. You want to abuse it.”

 

L- “Fox News is biased and promotes hate.”

R- ” No, it is fair and balanced. A majority of News media has a liberal bias and hates conservatives.”

L- “No, the other news stations give the facts, especially NPR. Only Fox news is bias. That and Rush Limbaugh.”

 

R- “Hillary would be a terrible president.”

L- “you are saying that because you are sexist.”

R- “No, she has no real political experience, besides being married to Bill Clinton.”

L- ” She has had tons of experience. Sexist!”

 

R- “You are close minded and have been brainwashed by the media.”

L- ” I think you are the one that is close minded and has been brainwashed by the media.”

R- “You don’t listen to the facts.”

L- “You don’t listen to the facts.”

 

It seems to never end. Kind of annoying isn’t it.

What are your thoughts? Let me know in the comments below

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