Your Apology Falls on Deaf Ears Leslie Rasmussen Part 1

Many have been talking about the disgusting letter (including me) that Brock Turner’s father wrote.

Leslie Rasmussen letter (childhood friend of Standford Rapist, Brock Turner) is just as disturbing and even more so in some cases.  I know its hard for you Time magazine to call him that, but for me it came with ease. This 20 year old wrote a letter defending the actions of her childhood friend and shamed the victim for being drunk  She has now apologized, but before we go into that I want you to read at her initial letter first.

If you haven’t read the Letter by now* I will share it with you.

Grab a drink, take a deep breath, and get ready to be repulsed by the asinine letter.



If it is too hard for you to read because it is small, I typed up the full text, even though parts of it will make me want to vomit from the reprehensible statements she made.

Honorable Judge Aaron Persky,

It was with great sadness that I read the news about about Brock Turner, and the horrible situation he was involved in. It came as a huge shock to me.

Brock has been a peer of mine since elementary school, and was a very close friend of mine for a few years in high school. He dated one of my very good friends Lydia Pocisk, around the same time. In those years, he was very respectful with everyone. Teachers, classmates, friends, and girls all alike. He is one of those people that no one has a problem with, and is pretty much good at everything. We all knew he’d swim in the olympics one day. His family is a very respectable family in town. I also know his older sister, Caroline.  They all seem like such good kids brought up by two very cool and very grounded parents. In all honesty if I had to choose one kid I graduated with to be in the position Brock is, it would never had been him. I could name off 5 others I wouldn’t be surprised about. Brock is such a sweetheart and a very smart kid. I never once caught him harassing anyone, verbally or physically. That would have been so out of his character.

It’s pretty frustrating to see the light people are putting him in now. It used to be “swim star” and now it’s like he is the face of rape on campuses. It’s such a false way to put it. I cannot believe it. I’ve thought a lot about it and from different angles. I tried to accept that maybe he intended to harm this girl, but I just couldn’t imagine it was the case. I know rape is a very sensitive subject, for everyone, especially women. I am not backing it up or making excuses, but there is no way Brock went out that night with rape on his mind. I think he went to party and was drinking, like almost every student an a university does, and was flirting with this girl, like he said. The woman recalls how much she drank, which was a lot. She was no doubt about to black out, if not already. I’m sure she and Brock were flirting at the party and decided to leave together. Just as they she passes out, which after that many drinks, many would. At the same time Brock, having a few too many drinks himself, is not in complete control of his emotions. It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to know that alcohol increases emotions and feelings. I think this is all a huge misunderstanding. I think that the bikers would found him did the right thing by keeping him there in case he was attempting rape, but that after investigation it should have Brock found innocent.

Brock is not a monster. He is the furthest thing from anything like that, and I have known him much longer than the people involved in this case. I don’t think its fair to base ten+ years of his life on the decision of a girl who doesn’t remember anything but the amount she drank to press charges against him. I am not blaming her directly for this, because that isn’t right. But where do we draw the line and stop worrying about being politically correct every second of the day and see that rape on campuses isn’t always about rape isn’t always because people are rapists. It is because universities market themselves as the biggest party schools in the country. They encourage drinking. I think it is disgusting and I am so sick of hearing that these young men are monsters when really, you are throwing barely 20-somethings into camp like university environments, supporting partying, and then your mind is blown when things get out of hand. This is completely different from a woman being kidnapped and raped as she is walking to her car in a parking lot. That is a rapist. These are not rapists. These are idiot boys and girls having too much to drink and not being aware of their surroundings and having clouded judgement. I’m not saying that is every case because I know young men that take advantage of women and vice versa, but I know for a fact that Brock is not one of those people.  He is respectful and caring, talented and smart enough to know better.

Attached is a photo of Brock I took in high school. He has always had that huge loving smile on his face. The caption is even “d’awwwww” because he was always the sweetest to everyone.

I appreciate you taking your time to hear about my past with Brock and my opinion on the matter, and I hope you consider what I’ve said when looking into the sentencing. I would not be writing this letter if I had any doubt in my mind that he is innocent.

Thank you again,

Leslie Rasmussen.

Well, if you were able to get through all of that good job, I know it wasn’t easy. For those that couldn’t, I understand, you can only read so much stupid and nauseating statements before you want to punch something.

Now, her pathetic apology. There is another that is longer. That I will include in Part 2. This post is becoming far too long already.

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Okay Leslie Rasmussen, since your “20 year old” self is so stupid to make numerous asinine statements in the first letter. I will teach you with what is wrong with you letter. After I will critique your pathetic apology as well.

I doubt you will ever read this, but I will at least feel better myself by the end of this.

 20 Things To Understand For Leslie Rassmussen, the Ignorant 20 Year Old who Has “Much to learn”:

  1. “His family is a very respectable family in town.” What does him having a respectable family mean? What does respectable mean? Rich? From the “right side of the tracks?” Obviously they aren’t respectable if the father cals rape just “20 minutes of action.”
  2. “I never once caught him harassing anyone, verbally or physically.” Doesn’t mean he didn’t do it or thought about it. I was abused in private while in a year long relationship with someone.
  3. Rapists rarely consider themselves rapists. Do you think Hitler thought of himself as evil? No, Hitler thought he was doing something good for Germany at the time. Extreme example, but I hope it makes my point.
  4. Those who rape usually feel entitled and don’t like being told no. Men who rape don’t think of it as rape, they think “She wanted it,” “she’s asking for it,” “she is just playing hard to get,” “women are supposed to want me(n),” etc. The same could be said of women who rape, just switch the gender pronouns.
  5. Drinking usually gets rid of peoples inhibitions, not change their morals or mindset completely. Think of it like hypnotism….so in this case being drunk didn’t magically change his personality, it just revealed that he was willing to rape a girl while she was unconscious.

    Hypnosis can’t change anybody’s basic underlying personality,  it can’t repair congenital damage or genetic problems, it can’t make anybody live forever (although it probably can help to extend useful and enjoyable  life), it can’t help to achieve anything that is truly physically impossible, like growing body parts and it cannot do anything that the client resists happening. 

  6.  Just because a woman (or man) is drunk, doesn’t mean that is an automatic invitation for sex. Sex should be done with consent. I even included the definition in case that word was too difficult for your 20 year old mind.
  7. If Brock was the good caring individual you believe, he wouldn’t have lost “complete control of his emotions” and raped the girl. That’s like a guy saying, “OMG, my penis just fell out my zippered pants and straight into her vagina! It’s not like I had any control over the zipper, and the underwear I’m wearing whatsoever!”
    for real though

    Your logic is so fallible Leslie. Oh I’m sorry, is that too big of a word for your 20 year old mind?

    If he was a good caring individual he would have gone for help to try to take her home or even to the hospital to make sure she was okay and not experience alcohol poisoning. Not raping her.

  8. You know, when I’m on my period I tend to be very hormonal and I don’t feel “in complete control of my emotions.”  I’m sure many women feel the same way. Do you think any women committing an act of violence while on their period a valid excuse? (It shouldn’t be a valid excuse, ever. I want to share this quote quickly because I get back on point

    “It reinforces the stereotypes that a lot of people have about PMS — that there is a certain time of the month when women become completely irrational and dangerous.”

    ).  Hell, I’m pretty sure I deal with a hormone imbalance (that I’m getting checked out) and even though I feel like telling all of humanity to “F$#@ OFF!” some days, you don’t see me committing acts of violence. No, I just write in my journal about how I think humanity can be really, really stupid.  What can we conclude? The excuse that not being in complete control because of drinking is a stupid ass statement.

  9. The only time you speak of the victim, is when you blame her. Would you blame a child being abused for the abuse?  Do you blame all those that died on 9/11 of being killed? If the answer is no, than you shouldn’t blame the victim in this case either.
  10. It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to realize you could never become a rocket scientist yourself because you think rape is excusable by alcohol even though all other crimes done under the influence aren’t.
  11. It’s not a “misunderstanding” because there were two eyewitnesses in this case and one of them even stated that Brock didn’t look drunk. Thank God there were, because people like you would have really helped a rapist escape justice (granted its pathetic in this case, but its better than the guy being free at all). The only people who misunderstood in this case is every individual that defended Brock Turner’s character and either ignored or blamed the victim for what happened.
  12. “I think that the bikers would found him did the right thing by keeping him there in case he was attempting rape, but that after investigation it should have Brock found innocent. ”  This statement alone is stupid. It was actually the reason I had to take a break from writing this blog post because I became so infuriated. If Brock was innocent and not raping the girl, why would the bikers have to try to keep him there? Why did Brock run away from the scene where a girls clothes were partially if not completely off her while she was passed out? If one is innocent, you would think one wouldn’t run away from the scene of a crime.
  13. “Brock is not a monster.” You are right on that account. Calling him a monster would try to show that he is not human, trying to distance ourselves from the bad in this world. He is a human being and human beings can do good and evil deeds. Brock Turner committed an evil deed by raping a girl.
  14. You know what isn’t “fair?” That a woman was raped while she was passed out from drinking! How that woman may have to undergo years if not decades of counseling and medication all the while experiencing anxiety, paranoia, fear, PTSD, etc! That isn’t fair! 
  15. “I’m not blaming her directly for this, because that isn’t right.”

    You still are blaming her!! Whether it is direct or indirect!

  16. “Worry about being politically correct every second of the day.” I can’t deal with this statement. I can’t, I’m sorry. I’m an Independent: conservative on some issues and liberal on others. I’m against censorship even if its offensive, I’m not what some would consider PC….Do you realize how all over the place your letter is? Are you talking about women who lie about rape (which btw is reprehensible)? Women are more likely not to report a rape because people would often think they are lying or making it up. I won’t deny that there are those who lie about rape, but if you are stating this as though you believe rape is an issue blown out of proportion, you obviously have never spoken with a victim of rape and or sexual assault.  You have not only insulted me, someone who has been through sexual abuse, you are insulting every single women who has.
  17. “see that rape on campuses isn’t always about rape isn’t always because people are rapists.It is because universities market themselves as the biggest party schools in the country. They encourage drinking. I think it is disgusting and I am so sick of hearing that these young men are monsters when really, you are throwing barely 20-somethings into camp like university environments, supporting partying, and then your mind is blown when things get out of hand. ”  Yes, because staff at the universities are holding guns at peoples held telling them to drink till they are so drunk and also tell them to rape girls while they are at it.  I mean its not like they are legally adults now and they have to follow the law. It’s not if they should know by now right and wrong.
    Having a party or having a drink does not equal rape (see #3 for a recap on this). Raping someone is rape.
  18. “you are throwing barely 20-somethings into camp like university environments,” If you think 20 year olds are too stupid to handle peer pressure and not take  responsibility, than you shouldn’t have written a letter that was going to be used in a court case.
  19. “This is completely different from a woman being kidnapped and raped as she is walking to her car in a parking lot. That is a rapist. These are not rapists.”

  20. “I’m not saying that is every case because I know young men that take advantage of women and vice versa, but I know for a fact that Brock is not one of those people.  ”   Well Joran Van Der Sloot’s parents thought he was being unfairly singled out and said they knew their son so well too. He killed two women.

Well, I can’t write anymore on this for now. I need to step back, drink some tea. I will be back later to critique her pathetic apology attempts.

*My post is later than I hoped because reading this  letter angered me more than reading the father’s letter to the point I had to walk away and calm down. I actually started typing this as soon as the news broke about it.


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“20 Minutes of Action” you say Mr. Turner

From: Someone who was in an abusive relationship for a year, who dealt with sexual abuse, and who has been sexually harassed and assaulted in the past

To: Mr. Turner

Calling the rape your son committed “20 minutes of action” is so disgusting, there are no words I can think of at this moment that can describe how ill it makes me. I actually want to physically throw up.

I would say misogyny, but that doesn’t even cover it how revolting you and your son are as human beings. Nor can I describe how revolting at how low the prison sentence is for your son. I hope somehow your son is locked away in prison for a very long time.

And your son, the pathetic excuse of a human being that you raised has the audacity to blame it on party culture, drinking,etc. I have gone to parties and not committed crimes. I have gotten my ass drunk and the most I have done is dance like a moron and tell everyone I loved them and we should hang out more.  People get their ass in trouble when they commit crimes, whether or not they are drunk in the process. So there’s no excuse. Being drunk is not a get out of jail card.

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There have been people wondering how the father would have responded if it had been his daughter. There are people that are outraged by his words and rightly so, he is painting his son as the victim, when in reality the one who was raped is the victim.

To be honest, if he is saying this about his son, he comes off as the kind of individual who would think promiscuity equals an individual “wanting it” or “is asking for it.” No doubt he would drill that idea into the mind of his daughter from an early age. I could be wrong of course on that, but with reading this letter, I’m not holding out much hope for this mans character. If it happened to his daughter even though she wasn’t “asking for it” in his mentality, he would go to trial. But if she was wearing clothes or behaving in a way that he would consider “asking for it”….one wonders what his actions would be than.

Another thing I thought of, the fact he calls it “20 minutes of action” instead of rape, you have to wonder….has the father committed the same sins in the past that his son has now been convicted of. I wouldn’t be surprised if the father had committed those same “20 minutes of action” when he was his sons age.

Yes, I am going there.

People aren’t born racists, sexist, misogynist,etc. Where do you think he could have learned the behavior, the mentality that he is entitled to “action.” Now I know there are those cases that it isn’t learned from home, but from other places. But and a Big BUT , between this letter, him calling rape “20 minutes of action,” and his sons behavior; one wonders if whether or not he nurtured the mentality in the household.

Mr. Turner, your son isn’t the victim here. Your son is the criminal and I have no sympathy for him whatsoever.  He raped a women, and to be honest he got off lightly. So what if this bothers him for 6 months. That young women will be spending years in therapy, will be dealing with nightmares, PTSD, anxiety, depression, and possibly  go on medication because of your sons actions.


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#FreeKesha #SonySupportsRape

Today I heard the news. I am really pissed. No. I am super mega fucking pissed.

Yes, I will be cursing.

I have liked some of her music, but I wouldn’t call myself a die hard fan. Not even a fan, just an occasional listener.

Still, when I learned that she wouldn’t be free from Sony. I honestly felt like flipping over a table Teresa Guidice style.


Honestly, it may be a bad idea for me to write this unfiltered, but screw it. I’m going to.

They say there is lack of evidence of abuse and rape.

In the case when I was with an abusive individual for almost a year (many many years ago) there would also be lack of evidence (and still is), because most of it was emotional. When it was sexual it usually involved grabbing and such and the bruises would soon fade and I was too embarrassed to talk about it.

Guess what is still happened. Guess what I’m still dealing with the scars from it (although I’m a lot better).

This man, this asshole who calls himself “Dr. Luke” (how fucking pretentious) as of right now is getting away with it.


I don’t even have the words. I also learned he was born in the same state where I grew up for a good part of my childhood, Rhode Island. I liked that state and that scum was born there.


The girl was admitted to a rehab center for God’s sake for an eating disorder!

Or is she lying about that too Luke? Is she just making herself have an eating disorder to help support her case to get out of a contract? I mean shit do you have a doctorate? I can’t find any information stating you have even been to college, yet you call yourself Dr. Luke?

Your ego is showing. 

Same time there are rumors surfacing already that he has done shady shit before.

And now these images that are cropping up again (flashback) are starting to make more sense.


Another point someone made doesn’t help matters either, in fact in shows how lacking in morals the music industry is.

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Don’t get me started on the whole Chris Brown thing. I’m still irritated by that. That is a whole other post in itself.

By the way as a feminist I have to ask

“Where are all the hollywood feminists at?

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What I am Doing For Lent (2016)

Yesterday was Ash Wednesday, the start of Lent.

With battling Lyme Disease I had already given up quite a bit:

  • Fast food- it doesn’t agree with me anymore, I rarely eat it, and when I do my body doesn’t like it
  • Alcohol- I rarely drink it because of all the medicine I am on
  • Sweets- I still eat these, but no where near as much as I used to
  • Junk food- same thing as sweets

Even my priest and family said I should only focus on getting better for lent. My priest has been very helpful and supportive while I am dealing with all the affects of lyme disease.

Well I still feel the need to do something for lent, so I decided to do something I don’t do very often anymore. Pray.
I can’t really tell you when I last prayed on a daily basis. I still believe in God. I believe he exists. It’s not just because of faith either. I have felt him in others. It’s hard to explain.

Anyway back to why I chose to pray more.

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My Thoughts To Roosh V’s “36 Things Wrong with American Women”


So I decided to watch this, because it’s important to research the person you want to criticize instead of just blindly following the crowd. Be warned, I will use curses in this post. Also if you are a thinking human being, you will probably need a drink to get through this list.

I am really not kidding, I wish I wasn’t on all the meds I was on, otherwise I would have had a couple of drinks myself. I had to take breaks, it is just amazing to me that people like this still exist. There is so much stupid in on video, your brain will be dumbfounded.

For those that don’t know who Roosh V. is, I will introduce you to him before we start with the list. He is first generation American (Armenian and Iranian). To quote this guy on youtube

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Here is the video:

Here is the Video description

I made this video so American women can understand all the things they do wrong. I hope that they will embark on a journey of self-improvement after watching it.

I even wrote down the list for those who don’t want to watch it, are hard of hearing or deaf because the captions for it suck.  I will respond to each statement after I finished this list. My thoughts in this are italicized. The lines show where Roosh’s statements begin, I skipped the intro (nothing stood out in the intro), but kept the ending in for reasons you will see.


Roosh’s “36 Things Wrong with American Women” 

  1. They’re fat. Fat girls are simply unattractive. So, why should you waste time dating a fat girl?
  2. They’re constantly glued to their smartphone. These girls are addicted to an electronic device and are less capable of human interaction.
  3. They cut their hair short. They are so lazy to maintain long hair they make themselves ugly on purpose.
  4. They’re more impressed with the crappy DJ or instagram celebrity than a doctor who saves lives.
  5. They think being overly sarcastic is a quality that men love. Wrong, being sarcastic is rude and doesn’t show that you have a good sense of humor.
  6. They listen to stupid websites when it comes to learning how to please men.
  7. They don’t know how to cook. They’re idea of cooking is using a microwave or preparing macaroni and cheese and some women don’t even know how to do that.
  8. They wear flips flops when they are not at the beach, not at the pool or not in their house.  Flip flops are the laziest footwear you can put on and it screams to the world you simply don’t care.
  9. They have condoms in their dresser because they are fully prepared to sleep with random men. A man only wants a girl to be a slut for himself, not the entire town.
  10. They idolize drug addicted celebrities aiming to mimic their dead brain behavior. The role model for todays girl is Kim Kardashian, not a woman who actually achieved things in life.
  11. They acquire pets instead of putting in the work to land a quality man. When a woman gives up in life she buys a dog, this is sad.
  12. They don’t know how to be sexy and feminine, only trashy and slutty. Modern American women have no idea how to be a lady on the streets.
  13. They have standards way beyond their level of attractiveness. Even an average girl thinks she should land a prince charming.
  14. They think that to have a good job means they are a quality girl and a good catch. Newsflash, guys don’t care about your stupid office job nonprofit gig.
  15. They wear pajamas in public, this is retarded.
  16. They enjoy books like Twilight, 50 Shades of Grey, and The Secret. They are addicted to dead brain entertainment that makes them dumber.
  17. Their idea of travel is going to the beach or France. They have no idea how to use travel to learn about other cultures.
  18. They have too many trashy tattoos. Too many American women these days look like prison convicts.
  19. They are proud to be dating many men at the same time as if they were men themselves. These days women have no shame in hiding the fact they are sluts.
  20. They do and say filthy things in bed, even the first time you have sex with them as if they were an amateur porn actress. You know they are doing that to every other guy as well.
  21. They cockblock their own girlfriends when they are jealous. They can’t have it so their friend meets someone while they don’t.
  22. They make lame excuses for not putting effort into their appearance. It seems like a race to the bottom for every girl to be as homely as possible.
  23. #24 -(wait wheres #23) They always lie the first time you get them in bed saying “I’ve never done this before,” we know that’s a lie, but they continue saying it for every guy they sleep with.
  24. #25- (yeah, I think he skipped a number, misspoke, or can’t count) They confused being a challenge with being whiny and annoying. They have no idea how stupid they look when they give men are hard time for spending time with them.
  25. #26-They watch way too much TV, letting it influence their personalities. When you go on a date with an American girl, you are dating a combination of characters she has seen on television
  26. #27-On the way home from their comfortable office job they take off their work shoes and put on dirty sneakers. They have no idea how much of a slob they look when they do this.
  27. #28- They age their skin prematurely through fake tans. Maybe they will look good this week or next month, but in a few years time they are going to look like a raisin.
  28. #29-They insist on eating pizza, gyro, and other fattening food after a night of binge drinking and then they wonder why they are so fat.
  29. #30-They’re obsessed with cupcakes. An American woman gets satisfaction from eating tiny baked goods.
  30. #31-They care more about maintaining a career than a good home or family. She has made money the most important part of her life more than having kids or a good husband.
  31. #32-They rarely wear high heels, one of the most feminine behaviors that a woman can do.
  32. #33-They think dining out and eating food slathered with butter and salt makes them cultured and they call themselves a foodie while they do it. It just makes them fat instead.
  33. #34- They don’t speak any foreign languages. They think America is the center of the universe.
  34. #35-Their intellectual curiosity doesn’t go beyond the pages of gawker or buzzfeed. To get them to actually learn about the truths of the world is impossible.
  35. And Lastly #36-They drone on and on about the stupidest personal drama and nonsense. Thinking the day to day things they come across are critically important to anyone else

So there you have it, 36 (it’s 35) that are wrong with American women. While no woman of the world is perfect, I find that American women have the most flaws out of all the other foreign women I’ve dated. If you are stuck dating American girls right now, it would be worth your time and energy to see what foreign women have to offer you.


I actually feel physically ill just typing this list up; listening to it over and over again to make sure I got his exact words. My reaction upon listening to this individual and typing up this entire list.


By the way. congratulations. You made it through this asinine list created by a manchild that is upset that women want to be their own person and have a desire for independence.

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That list was painful to type up, for those that didn’t want to watch the video or for those that are hard of hearing or deaf, you are welcome.


Headache starting thanks to this

Now onto my thoughts. I will respond to each individual remark he made with my own. His words will be in italics, my response won’t be.

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My 5 Favorite Superbowl Commercials of 2016

A lot of the commercials weren’t that great this year, like everything else relating to the superbowl this year, it was very meh. Still I was able to enjoy some of the commercials and there were some that were rememberable, for amusing reasons.

In a way, this should have been titled 5 Superbowl Commercials I found amusing, but I’m not gonna change it now.

Here we go.

5.) #Ballogize with Steve Harvey

I was surprised to see Steve Harvey in this commercial and I loved the fact he made fun of himself over the recent mistake he made this past Miss Universe pageant. Same time T-Mobile is calling out Verizon, which is hilarious.

I even found the extended version of the commercial to be enjoyable and not a waste of time.


4.) Chasing A Prius #GoPriusGo

I really liked this commercial, acknowledging the joke that is the Prius, they gave it an amusing storyline and it made me think of the OJ Simpson case. Instead of murdering people, this was occurring because they stole from a bank.

I have to say though, I was amazed by the gas milage.

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A Superhero Power I would Not Want

I was looking at the WordPress daily prompts that they give and I stumbled across this one.

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The prompts says you can only pick one superhero power out of the three:

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My Worst Valentine’s Day Ever (AKA A Sign From God Himself telling me this Relationship was a bad idea)

I’m going back to the time when I was in high school. I was in a relationship that should never have been. My parents didn’t like him (for good reason), my best friend was always concerned for me, and he was emotionally abusive (calling me names: fat, saying that had love handles, that I was gaining weight, that I was smart, but not that smart, saying that he loved me and only I understood him, getting upset when I was around other guys, etc.) and somewhat sexually abusive to me and pressuring me to do some things I didn’t want to, making me feel guilty or a bad girlfriend.


Don’t worry, there’s nothing triggering or super scary in this story (thankfully). I’m just setting it up, so you can understand why this was the worst valentine’s day ever for me.

The day before we had another huge argument/fight at school after school. I don’t even know what about anymore, I think it may have been over another girl or something. Or how he thought she was hot and that I don’t fit the definition of “hot.” I felt hurt/ offended by what he said (rightly so). We made up though and he said he was looking forward to spending Valentine’s Day with me and would get me something special.

A couple things to keep in mind throughout this whole post:

  • this was my first time in a relationship for Valentine’s Day
  • he had a job and I didn’t
  • he didn’t really have any expenses
  • I have been dating this guy for about 5 months, although I have known him longer, who manipulates me emotionally, abuses me emotionally and sexually.

Even after this fight I had bought for him a card and a chocolate reese’s heart, yes I still remember to this day and I will tell you why later. You are probably thinking this in regards to me getting him something and still staying with him after he said I wasn’t hot and all the other bad shit he has said about me to my face.

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And you are right, it was messed up. My head wasn’t in the right place. I know that.

Now, this all occurred February 13.

Next Day Valentine’s Day Around 3-4 in the morning.

Be warned, the story gets gross from here on out. You have been warned.

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My Final Thoughts on The Fine Bros (Part III)

If you got this far after reading Part 1 & Part 2, congrats!

Thank you for your patience.

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Now onto my actual thoughts on this instead of just sharing all the facts as they are.

I can understand wanting to protect ones format/ideas, the thing is though, reaction videos have been around a long time now. They just became really popular on youtube and the fine bros just happened to be the ones to make it big.

They sad and stupid thing is they said they like how youtube runs and is different from traditional corporate ways, and yet make comparisons to America’s Got Talent.

Then to top that all of what they proposed was basically a pyramid scheme. The stated that they would share logos, branding items, and send out adive through emails to those that sign up to be a part The Fine Bros business. From what I understood, they won’t give you equipment, buy the software for you,etc.  Now one you would have had the videos uploaded the Fine Bros would take a larger share of the profits you made on your channel. The whole process works like Marykay or Avon business practice works. The Person higher up on the pyramid profits from the person on the lower part of the pyramid works.


Instead of starting your own reaction channel, creating your logos, and buying the equipment you would have to buy yourself anyway (even if you worked with fine bros) and keeping all the money for yourself, someone else would give you logos, random “free advice” in return for a bigger chunk of your profits.

you read that right

Don’t worry you read that right. It’s why people are irritated.

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Things Aren’t Fine, Fine Bros Part II

Man, the brain fog is strong with me right now, but I’m gonna push through, want to share knowledge with everyone. There won’t be as many videos in this one, and this should be shorter.


Now when I last left off in Part 1 of this, I mentioned how Fine Bros stoled an idea from another youtuber.

More specifically Elders Reacts.

There was a channel called stillcosmo, which no longer exists that uploaded a video called Senior Reacts.

Now thanks to webarchives the internet is able to learn this bit of information

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I want you to take note of the date.

April 3, 2012. 

Keep that in mind.

Now let’s look at this video

They announced a new series! Seniors React??

Wait a minute, what’s the date. This sounds familar.

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Well, well, well. Would you look at that.

May 1, 2012!

A month later after another channel uploads this, they “come up” with this great idea.


Here is more info on the timeline of that fiasco here.

Now, on top of this more drama has emerged.

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